Tranny Leak...Shifter Shaft Seal??

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  1. AppMaverick

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    if I had a diagram I would do it. Without that it sounds like I should take it to a shop... idk. I broke a brake line and won't have a replacement until tomorrow afternoon so I have time to do it tomorrow morning. I was going to bring it to a tranny shop tomorrow until the brake line broke. I think i'll just set the car on fire and play some cards inside while I watch it burn. no, not really. but geez, the brake line was killer. almost had the car done too. two weeks late and now another day behind. I would like to do the tranny myself just to have done all of the work myself, but if I reasonably can't then I can't. idk. I give up for tonight. I'm gonna go clean up and then have a beer. thanks for your help everyone. wouldn't have gotten even close this far on the car without this forum.
     
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    these are pics. of my shift lever. :Handshake
    in pic.#1 you can see where the tang is brazed to the shaft, this is where it breaks...
    there is nut on the outside that holds the kick down lever, breaking that nut loose is where the tang gets broken. you need to hold the kick down lever so it doesn't turn and jam the tang on the inside.
    in pic.#2 you can see the big nut that holds the shiftershaft to the case.remove that nut, pull the shaft and replace the...seal/o-ring...

    ...these pics. were taken after the V. body was removed...car is on my lift.

    you will need about 5-7 qts. of fluid, pan gasket and filter to do this job.
    if transmission has over 100,000 miles on it... you are taking a chance that the transmission will not work again...it's just one of them things that happen...:yup:

    ...how's your luck and how bad is the leak?...

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    Thanks for the info and pics. my luck's been been pretty bad recently and the leak is bad enough that I wouldn't want to drive the car any long distance. I'm guessing the 100,000 mile thing applies for taking it to a shop too, but they probably have a better chance? Idk how many miles are on it. Pretty sure it's never had anything done to it. Car says 84,000 miles for all that means... Thanks again for your help. This seems like something that I should get a second C4 to rebuild so I know what I'm doing first. Those pics were both enlightening and intimidating. sorry for the bad mood last night. I'm going to take it to a guy and be safe.
     
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    Nice post..........
     
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    You don't have to remove the pan to replace the kick-down shaft seal - it is the one that leaks most often at the shaft.
    Remove the nut and washer,
    remove the lever,
    push the threaded portion of the shaft in about 1/4" and pull it back out,
    Remove the o-ring and replace with new,
    put the lever in place and install the washer and nut.
    DONE!

    Try this before you replace the case mounted shaft seal - it is easier, cheaper and is probably your problem.
     
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    does the lever have a certain way that it has to go to be in place or just put it in so that it looks like it did when it came out? i guess my question is how much can I be off when putting the lever in place before I cause a larger problem?
     
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    The lever for the kick-down is located with two flats on the shaft. you can put it on the way it was or 180 degrees from where it was - nothing in between. It is, of course, best to put it back on in the same position you removed it.

    :)
     
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    thanks paul. This will be my first ever tranny fix attempt. I usually try not to even look at the things in fear that I'll break them lol. I can't find a seal available in Raleigh without ordering it so I'm putting the repair off for a week or so until I'm moved to my new town. I'll just keep stopping to check fluid levels on the way there. It's only 3 hours away. When I do try and tackle this can I PM you if I run into problems? - seems pretty straight forward as of right now. I'm gonna buy a junk C4 in the near future to rebuild so I can end this silly fear of transmissions. Then maybe I can be the one helping someone out :)
     
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    It works better if you Email me... but if you are willing to wait then a PM works too.
     

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