Vacuum Advance issues.

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  1. shaneb

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    Once it dies it will start backup and I can drive it again, but after 3-4 times of it shutting off, it will crank backup, but if I barely press the gas it dies and won't go anywhere. If it sits an hour them I can go again.



     
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    Thats what makes me lean towards not getting enough fuel! hope you figuer it out!
     
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    Thanks for your help I appreciate it!

     
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    Put your old distributor and coil back in and see what happens.
     
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    I used it and turned it into my oil pump primer.


     
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    :tsk::tsk: Your making an assumption that may well be the wrong one here. If your #1 piston is at TDC on the firing stroke, THEN the balancer pointer SHOULD be at 0*TDC. If your balancer ring has slipped and you have the pointer at 0* TDC, the #1 piston will not be at TDC. As for the fuel presure reading, 7 psi is on the high side, but that in no way is an indicator of flow volume and correlating pressure to the required flow to keep the fuel bowls filled is an incorrect assumption. The trouble you're experiencing with your MSD is exactly why I never recommned that someone fork over $400 for their system for a street motor. It's just a complete waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere and get more bang for the buck.
     
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    Thats why I wanted to make sure and ask you guys about the timing. I just went out there today and tried starting it and well I think the fuel pump is bad. It would start up and run for a second then die, during that time the fuel gauge was bouncing back in forth from 2-5 over and over. Yesterday when I would shut off the car the gauge would immediately go to zero. Should it still hold pressure after the car is off if it was in the line? Not only that the starter bolts came out and fell on the floor. Looks like im going to need longer bolts and nuts for the back of it. Also I had the crank turned when I took it in for a complete rebuild would that mean the balencer would be off?



     
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    My pressure gauge will stay around 5.5 lbs for hours after I shut the engine down. I have a mechanical pump
     
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    The fuel pressure should only be present after shutting the engine down as long as the pressure doesn't exceed what the fuel bowl float will resist and this will also depend on the presence of fuel in the bowl to support the float. If there's no fuel (or not enough fuel) there, the pressure will not be present in the line after shutoff. If you have (for example) 7 psi in the line and it only takes 5 psi to sink the float, then the excess pressure would be bled off until fhe float rises and closes the needle valve against the seat.
     
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    I have A mechanical fuel pump as well. Guess I will take this one back and get a new one.




     
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    A tiny amount of fuel escaping from the pump-to-carb line will release the pressure. Could escape thru the carb needle valve, a small leak in the fuel line, or the check valve in the fuel pump. Can't you find a way to read the pressure while the problem is occuring to know if the fuel pump is OK?

    The pressure in my line falls off to zero in about a minute after the engine is shut off.
     
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    I went through 3 Advance Auto fuel pumps in a 2 month period on my 6 cyl. Just saying...you get what you pay for.
     
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    Well just got a new fuel pump. My wife bought a high one for the maverick and not the correct one for the engine. This one looks like the one that came off the engine originally. About to install it and see what it does. Will keep you guys posted on what happens.



     
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    i hope thats the problem.
     
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    I hope so too! I installed the fuel pump, starter bolts and got 10 gallons of fresh gas, but it wouldnt start. Is there a trick to getting these mechanical fuel pumps going?


     

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