Vacuum Advance issues.

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  1. rthomas771

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    My battery was close to dead so maybe it didnt have a good 12v to make the ignition work. I put it on the charger overnight. When I make it home I will try it again and see whats going on.


     
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    you could try putting alittle gas in the carb.it doesnt take much.just try to get it to prime.
     
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    I put a little gas, but it wouldnt turn over. Im sure it was my battery. We will see this afternoon.


     
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    Try to fill the float bowl - on the older cars you can use the vent tube.
    It takes a lot of cranking to get gas from the tank to the pump and then to the carb.
    Priming the carb will get the fuel flowing very quickly.
     
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    Ok new pump is installed rechecked timing, timing is dead on, found out that the butter flys on my carb were not seating and closing properlly due to the shaft walking and butterfly was engaging with the side of the carb not allowing the butter flys to close, which is why my idle mixture screws wont do anything and it idles so high. It appears that with the butter flys off the shaft it will move more than a half inch side to side. Is this normal with the butterflys off?:huh:
     
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    Yes- the shaft will slide side-to-side without the butterflys attached. You have to tighten the screws that hold the butterflys with the throttle closed that way they are centered in the bore and on the shaft.
     
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    Well I put the butterflys back on and and changed a spring out and it now seats properlly. Will fire it up and see if the mixture screws will do anything around noon.
     
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    Mixture screws do work now and I was able to take it for a drive and on the highway. I got up to 70mph and it started jerking and starving for fuel. If I pressed the gas several times it would keep it running and not die. Im thinking maybe the fuel bowl gets empty when im driving that fast and the pump isnt pumping enought into the bowl or theres some kind or air leak in the fuel hose. Could someone please give me your thoughts on this. Other than that the car runs fine. I did notice when it starts doing this if I give it a little gas and park for a minute it runs fine, but then does the same thing at high speeds.
     
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    Rig up a fuel pressure gauge you can see while you're diving. Maybe take the hood off?
     
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    Fuel gauge was bouncing around like crazy, so I couldn't get a good reading. When I hit the gas it would go up to about 8 from what I could see.



     
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    You apparently have a restriction or as you said may be sucking in air! could even be sucking in air inside the tank you need to inspect all your lines and hoses from the pump to the tank. check for kinked hoses or rusty lines if nothing found then try looking inside the tank!
     
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    Are those butterfly screws secured from backing out ? Holley "buggers" the threads underneath to insure they do not unscrew. As for your fuel problem, have you made sure the fuel lines fom the tank to the pump are clear of obstructions ? And the tank vented ?
     
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    The butterflys are secured, fixed that the other day. I will have to re-inspect all the lines again, I did use some cheap hose clamps from harbor frieght for the fuel connections under the car which I know is not good and that could be my issue. They strip very easy. Those will be replaced shortly. As far as any obstructions the lines are original and have been cleaned and blown out. I think the vent could be an issue too, because I blew inside the tank from the fuel hose and it had a lot of pressure and seemed like it never released any air until I pulled the cap.


     
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    You most likely blew the trash back into the tank and now that trash is blocking the fuel flow. Always disconnect both ends of the fuel line when you blow them out. The vapor valve and/or sending unit is not designed to take that kind of pressure. It’s possible you damaged the check valve inside the vapor valve but I would think with enough air pressure it should had blew the vapor valve off the tank. If it wasn't enough pressure then you could had damaged the valve.
     

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