What Bellhousing do I need to buy to go with My 4 speed

It is not a car 289 bellhousing. it is a car 302 bellhousing. I know the difference between the car and truck bellhousing is the depth, car is 6-1/4 and truck is 6-3/4....The casting numbers on the bell that I am sending back is C5AA-6394-B. wich is listed as 69 - 73, 302 which most of those were 164 tooth.

I found what I needed to know right here http://www.mustangtek.com/Bellhousings/Bellhousings.html

it states
C5DA-6394-A

65-66 289 Falcon 2v 3_4sp
65-68 289 Mustang 2v 3_4sp
65-67 289 Hipo Mustang 4sp from_8/20/64)
65-67 289 Mustang Falcon 4v-PF 4sp
70+ 302 Maverick w/MT
Block 6 Bolt pattern
w/ 157 tooth flywheel
Lever C8OA-7515-A
D2OZ-6392-A


So it would appear that the 289 6 bolt bellhousing with casting # C5DA-6394-A or a Maverick Bellhousing D2OZ-6392-A is what I need.

 

ill check mine this week. i may even pull it out today, later on this evening

 

Based on your question, he didn't lie to you. You should have asked if it would all work with the clutch, pressure plate and flywheel you have. A C5DA bell was originally designed for a 65 Falcon with a 289. It may have been later used on 302's. It should be a 157 tooth bell, being for a Falcon. A C5AE bell might be a 164 tooth being for a large car. A C5TE bell was an FE bell, not a small block bell that I recall.

 

he didn't send me a C5DA bell, if he had of it would have been correct. He sent me a C5AA-6394-B, which is for a 302, 164 tooth specific.


The C5DA-6394-A is the one that I need to order.

 

I don't get it?
C5AA shows to be a 10" (157t) bell right in the list there.
Even if it is for a 302, like I said before in one of these threads while you were investigating the bell you need... 289s and 302s had 10" clutches almost as a rule. You don't get 164t 3 or 4 speed setups until you get to 351 cubes. Even the HiPos came with 157t. The list says that Boss 302 was 10"/157t, but I don't believe that. My experience is that the B302 was one of the only 302 cube car engines to ever get a 164t flywheel.

 

That Mustangtek website has several other errors, this is just another one.

If I say it came out of the Ford MPC which is the Master Parts Catalog, you can be pretty sure the information is valid.

1968 302 engines in Mustang/Cougars, full sized such as Galaxie, mid size cars like Torino/Ranchero - used a 164 tooth flywheel and the C5AA bellhousing.

 

Edit:

NEVERMIND!

I think you are correct and the list is BS!
The more I look at the AA, it sure looks like an aluminum 164t.
I have never seen one, but knew that they were out there.
The fact that it is aluminum, therefore the metal is spread out differently than the iron, makes it look like the 157t.

But when I look at the starter bolt spacing and thickness of the aluminum around the block bolts, it looks like the 164t rather than the DA 157t.

I didn't mean to doubt you so hard, but with the pics and the site claiming it is a 10" bell, it's easy to get tripped up.
Dave


The 164t bells have the bell expanded beyond the width at which the clutch fork opening is cast in. The 157t stays at almost the same width from the opening forward to the block surface... the 11" gets wider from the opening.

 

Ok, I just looked at one of the two Toploader bells I have and it's also a C5AA-6394-B. This is the correct 157 tooth bell to use with a Toploader. The C5DA bell is either the early Toploader bell, which has a different bolt pattern for the transmission bolts or one correct for a Borg-Warner T10, in which case the transmission bolt pattern is the same as the later Toploaders but has a different diameter hole for the pilot shaft housing hub.

 

got mine removed today and it's a D2 aluminum 157 tooth bell.......

 

Ok,you got me curious,I just walked out to the shop and dug out my bell,it's aluminum,it's for 157,and the part # is C80A-6394-A,it's had a 3sp TL,4sp TL,a T-10 4sp,and a NP 435 4sp bolted to it at one time,I don't know my part #s as well as some on here,but after 45 fricken years of playing with Fords,I know what works!(don't need no stinken part #s!) LOL...Jack

 

A bellhousing for a 6 bolt 289 with the number C5DA-6394-A will definitely take a 157 tooth flywheel and a 10 1/2" clutch. A Ford Motorsport King Cobra clutch comes close but does fit. Fits mine. I doubt if this BH could handle an 11 clutch though.

The C5DA-6394-A bell has the wide pattern & 6 bolt pattern.