HHO Generator - Save Gas

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  1. facelessnumber

    facelessnumber Drew Pittman

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    Dude, I thought I was done, but I have to tell you.

    A choke is part of a carburetor, You can have a carb without a choke, but you can't have a choke instead of a carb. The presence of a choke is utterly irrelevant.

    And a diesel engine is an internal combustion engine. It doesn't matter "what you've always called" anything.
     
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    We've got two guys who joined this forum after this thread started and found this discussion via a search. I don't think either one are known by any members on this forum and, therefore neither have any credibility with the members of this forum. It's turned into a personal brawl and I think the cat in this video has the right idea of where this discussion has gone.

     
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    Darn that faceless guy. He got his post up before I did mine. :D
     
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    Understood...When I get Mad...I start to type before I think. I know basicaly how it works, but I do know it does work. Even if you want to call it leaning...I really don't think it is, but anyway. I think it works and ya know I don't have to explain myself. Throw whatever you want at me...I have had it tested...I have tested it myself...and it seems to work from what I can see. I appoligize to you and everyone else on this forum except for the blantant jerks...you don't walk into someones house and crap on the floor and wipe your butt with the curtins.

    For your question about what I said. A Diesel is a ICE...I was just never around anyone that called it that..that is my fault for confusing you. As for the Carb...that didn't have to do with a diesel. It had to do with the generator and how a carb and one with a choke are different.
     
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    I just reported the post and my actions to the administrator with an apologie and requested that they not punish bubba for this happening. I didn't start it but I am going to finish it correctly. I will no longer participate in this thread or anyother. I believe what I believe, I wasn't selling anything, I was just tring to work with someone that was intrested in tring it like I have. My appologies again for my anger when pushed.
     
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    wow - how did I miss this thread until now. I haven't read all of it, but have read the last 6 pages or so. I have a HHO generator I built (using SS switch plates and a water filter housing) but I haven't installed it into my commuting car (a Saturn SL) yet.
     
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    facelessnumber Drew Pittman

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    Wouldn't worry about Bubba. Stefan's not that kind of guy. I only know of one person who got ever got banned and it really took a lot. More than what anybody said in this thread, that's for sure.

    In fact (although I can only speak for myself) I don't think you're unwelcome or disliked here. Join the family. We're a group like no other. If you really like it here go check out the classifieds section. Lots of nice Mavs and Comets for sale.
     
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    Thanks Faceless. I may do that.
     
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    UPDATE:

    I just filled up my tank. Results - 13.2 MPG.

    About 12% higher than my year-long average. Also .5mpg higher than my other highest in-city MPG which *was* 12.7.


    I did NOT expect this to work, and still have my doubts. However, now I'll be building one for my Maverick. It'll be a six jar unit w/ bubbler & in-cab ammeter & switch, etc...
     
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    It may not have work. I check the mileage in my daily driver every week. Here's my mpg for the last four weeks:
    22.8
    23.2
    22.9
    26.5

    I basically drive the same route five days per week. Why the big jump to 26.5? Properly inflated tires and driving 70 mph instead of 75 mph. I just had the oil changed and new tie rod ends installed with an alignment. I might hit 27 mpg this coming week...or I might get less because with less vibration in the front end, I may not know when I'm above 70.

    You need to test longer than a week.
     
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    Guess the only thing to do is continue testing and take a longer-term average. Good luck, Bubba. (y)
     
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    I fully plan on it.

    On a side note, I noticed today my truck was pulling to the left. Checked the tire... damn screw in it. So, the last 1-2 days were done with an under inflated tire... :rofl2:

    Probably didnt make much differnce considering I generally dont break 45mph anyway.

    EDIT/ADDED:

    Thanks Faceless.

    Your turn :thumbs2:
     
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    Hello Bubba

    The Bubbler is really important as a "Flash Back" arrester.
    Flash Backs can apparently be a problem and are hard to eliminate where H2 is concerned.
    If you do not have a bubbler on the unit there is a real possibility of a flame travelling back up the hose and blowing the electrolyser up.
    The Gas produced by the electrolyzer is H2 and O2 and is explosive at all times.

    Have a look at this video



    And this one is also interesting



    Notice how the flame travels back through the hose into the electrolyser in the slow motion part of this video

     
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    I guess it is kind of sad relating to that. After you made this post Hawkco I googled Brad West this is one of the first I came up with
    http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:pdJZdZ_gcsgJ:athensmessenger.com/main.asp%3FSectionID%3D1%26subsectionID%3D273%26articleID%3D11216+brad+west+hho&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us

    He made comments in this post that contradict statements he made earlier in this post
    "
    [FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF] Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008[/FONT]
    [FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Article comment by: Brad West[/FONT]
    [FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Did this myself a few weekends ago. Received a 11mgp gain on a 08 Ford Focus. Didn't adjust my O2 sensor because newer cars have a sensor right after the air intake box that detects the air quality. Then won't adjust the engine if there is alot of O2 comming out the back. I give 2 craps if anyone believes me or not. I did it, don't know how it works, don't care how it works, just that is works."

    but he is telling people how it works here.......

    In comparison to what he said here
    [/FONT]"I drive 144 miles round trip to and from work and the bulk is interstate travel. I have been using this device for around 4 months now and just had to clean it."
    The time just confused me, it starts at a few weekends ago (that would make it about 2 1/2-3 months) to 4 months on the mmb.maverick forums.

    He has posted other places on the net in similar situations like here
    http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1769/ and yes I can verify it is the same brad west he has posted his email address
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    Contact me if you think it is crap

    written by Brad West , July 12, 2008
    Well here ya go Bruce and Johno. bradstarbuckwest@hotmail.comThis email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it , I can give you my address and phone number and you can come take a look for yourself. Just email me. "

    and it is the same in post #71 here

    He may be right or whatever but he sure does spread whatever it is around the net good bad or otherwise....
    I am starting to wonder if he should be sending us here instead, it makes more sense to me and it is more economically friendly

    http://www.doodoomotors.com/:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
     
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    Well in theory after the metal has been creating HHO for a while it starts to pit a bit and the contaminants are completely moved off the metal (The stuff in the bottom on the container). This will give you a big jump once you hit the "Sweet Spot" because there is nothing but metal now and nothing to get in the way on the metal. You should get a bigger jump next week...in theory.
     
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