Well not exactly....this isn't a window sticker for a new truck. It is the parts estimate (yeah no labor) to replace the long block, turbo and injectors in a 2007 Dodge 2500 with a 6.7L diesel we had at work today. The biggest mechanical estimate I've ever seen in all of my years in this business.
Yep I love pricing out the Cummins stuff. All those poor buggers that fork over 600 a piece for rebuilt injectors. Then you have the lift pumps that fail repeatedly. Fuel systems so fussy that a bit of water will destroy them. Now the new ones with all the emissions, Egr and coolers, particulate filters,cats and now the exhaust injection. Diesels are just way too expensive to run now. This is not your fathers Cummins.
Holy horse crap! I thought diesels were supposed to last at least 500,000mi! Guess your not going to go to the junkyard and pick one up for a couple of hundred bucks,huh? I think they're trying to tell the guy,IT'S TOTALED!
Mechanically the cummins is still a strong runner. It takes alot of maintenance on the newer ones to get the fuel system to last as long as the engine. The engine failures we have seen are fuel system related or complete abuse. High quailty,fresh fuel with 2 filter changes each year is a must. Blows my mind how some people cant even keep up with that suggestion. Never mind all the other maintenance the new ones need. Its a shame what the emission regs have done to the mighty Cummins. I guess to summ it up in one word I would have to say "FUSSY" describes the newer Cummins.
That is just plain ridiculous. Period. Sounds like an insurance claim is coming. They might total it for that.
That was just the "customer pay" estimate. At this point we're assuming the intercooler was leaking and it went wide open till it blew. Of course the customer is raising ten kinds of he## with Chrysler to get it covered under warranty...still it's like a $27000 job under warranty. Btw...I hate diesels. I cringe everytime I hear one roll in the door at work. The latest garbage for some diesel owners is DEF fluid....a seperate tank that has to be filled with a fluid that assists the exhaust burn cleaner (as I understand it...I'm not a diesel tech). If the DEF tank runs out, the truck shuts off. What garbage. Then we have wireless ignition nodes and other electronic junk that you know is going to fail. That's why I'm currently looking for a nice low miles pre-97 Ford truck...less crap to fail!
That's ridiculous, I had a 91 Dodge Diesel I bought from my dad long story short my dad rolled the odometer and when I sold it to my uncle it had 320k plus and the only thing I did was make sure the oil was changed and went through a couple of battery's and a couple of alternators oh and I had a mechanic do a tune up on it once and it never had any problems. I wish I hadn't of sold it because my uncle ended up selling it to some guy that took the engine out and put it in his truck.
We had a Cummins run away on us at work. Turns out the intercooler was full of oil from a bad turbo. Installed a new turbo and it pushed all that oil into the engine and it ran away. Terrifying noise to hear that big motor take off beyond red line. We got lucky and it stayed together. I've heard of the same scenario and the motor grenades. You dont want to be anywhere near that thing when it lets go. And yes all our guys in the dealer suddenly get busy when a diesel rolls into the drive thru. Cant stand working on them either. We sublet our engine work to Carrier Truck up the road. We tried to do a diesel once. Pulled the head with cherry picker then tried the shortblock. All it did was take the weight off the front wheels. Wouldnt even lift the block off the mounts. Gotta love those WIN modules eh?? I must have changed a hundred by now. Got the minivans shortcut down but those Journeys with that stupid metal bracket drive me nuts.
Give thanks for the wonderful EPA for all this. Years ago, I was able to buy all the parts to rebuild a Cummins Big Cam IV for $3500. That was in the days of manual pumps, no electronics, no emission devices. Now with all the electronic crap and emission junk it's probably $15,000-$16,000 to rebuild a large diesel. And with all the new emissions junk like egr and dpf's, they don't last as long or have as much power. Plastic items under the hood melt from the increased temps. I will probably be in the market for a newer big truck in a year or two, and I won't look at anything newer than an 04-05, and then it has got to be a CAT. CAT was able to use saved emission credits and pay some small fines and not use all that junk. They mostly just increased injector pressures and added dual turbo's. When the 2010 regs came out, CAT said screw'em and quit building on highway engines. They said it wasn't worth trying to meet the regs and causing their products to be unreliable and more costly. I wish the rest of them had of stood up to the EPA and told them to screw themselves!
Uhhhhh no they just took a break to get ready for their new motor, probably had to retool their whole production line.....Pssst their is even a rumor they are going to be making their own on highway trucks..... http://www.drivecat.com/my-truck Besides their Perkins line still has all the emission crap on it. Yeah it kind of shocked me when I opened the hood up on a new 416 and the motor plate said Perkins on the side...
Well we got the job but it went warranty. The injectors come with the long block so that knocks a good bit off of the parts estimate. My tech working on it and I have a bet going. He says that once the parts are in he can do it one day...I'm saying no. Those Hooters hotwings sure are going to taste good!!!
