200r4 Vs. Aod

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  1. Megawes

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    Okay...... Has anyone done the swap to either of these trannys? How did the installation go? How much did it hurt the pocket book? How did you support the tranny (crossmember)? Do you have pics?? Driveshaft?
    I'm running a 302 and will be for quite some time. I've got my engine tuned up to about 350hp (roughly). I want to keep the cost down and installation to a breeze (yeah like that's ever possible with any car.) I've looked into ArtCarr transmissions AOD that they have and for a complete tranny with converter they want over $2000. That's why I thought of going with the 200R4. I can find a tranny, have it rebuilt, buy a converter and adaptor plate, and fab. a crossmember. Would the driveshaft need to be cut down? I'm still a little blind to this conversion. Help me see the light. Let me know what you guys have done.
    I've got to keep up with the Vette's and the Rice Burners. I've got to beat them both off the line and on top end. Most of those guys think they won once you slow down after beating them off the line.
     
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    Not trying to insult anyone, but have you considered a T5 manual? Even a t56 would be cool...but might be a bear to fit in the tunnel. To keep up with a vette on the top end, I bet you'll need about 500-600 HP to push the maverick through the air, where a vette has a very low CD (coefficient of drag). Just a thought.
     
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    I to am not trying to insult, but you run a Mav at high speed once to often on the road and you won't come home alive. They start to lift over 100 mph. To high , light and handle poorly for that kind of running.
     
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    I've been looking at the t-56 for the new project and I'm not sure it worth the extra money to have a gear inbetween 4th and 5th. All the other ratios are close to the t-5 but after 4th you get the first overdrive .80 to 1 then the second overdrive .63. The t-5 has a .65 5th.

    you can get the good viper one for an extra $1000 that's a total of $2900 for the trans.

    Just my dollar fifty on the subject
     
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    One time, my waterpump/alternator belt broke on my 70 mav's 200 and I had it mashed to begin with and i was doing roughly 105-110 mph and found that my car seemed to handle better... but that was only once... if i done it again maybe my judgement would be different.


    Just my I.O.U. on the subject,

    Kyle
     
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    Okay so I take it no one has put in a 200R4 in their Maverick. Sounds like the best choice would be to install a manual or sell the Maverick and by a real sports car.
     
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    The AOD swap has been done as for a 200R4 all I can say is WHY!! It is a junk Trans even behind a v6 if you are looking for over drive why not try one of the overdrive add-ons goes on the tail of the Trans then it makes your c4 a 6 speed

    With the way you sound maybe, you should sale it and join the Ricers:mad:
     
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    Ricers!!!! HA! Their not real sports cars.
    I was just kidding about selling it. I bought the car for $700 bucks and stock that car kicked most ricers!
     
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    I swapped an AOD from the junk yard into my '72 while I lived in CA. Had the stock 2.73 gears in it still and a somewhat agressive 302 instead of the I6. Anyway, I was blasting up highway 680 outside of Fremont early one Sunday morning with my foot on the floor. Speedo was about to pass the 120 mark, and the front end was feeling pretty light, when the AOD decided to puke its guts all over the highway. Lots of smoke from tranny fluid on the exhaust and some strange noises, but got it shut down and off to the shoulder.

    Since then I've put in a T-5 and absolutely love it!!!! Also put a Mach 1 style front spoiler on which makes all the difference in the world at higher speeds, really keeps the front end down! Not that I'm advocating exceeding the speed limit, but if you're gonna do it, a tranny that stays in one piece and a front spoiler are nice things to have :D
     
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    A nice T.K.O. in my Mav wouldn't be a bad idea. What all was involved in the sawp to the T-5? How did you mount that tranny in your car?
     
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    If you're going to do a cost comparison, don't compare a cheap used rebuild of a 200r4 to a state of the art Art Carr AOD.

    Apples vs. oranges.

    You can find good AODs used. They also bolt easily to Ford engines, which is handy, because you have a Ford engine.

    ""I to am not trying to insult, but you run a Mav at high speed once to often on the road and you won't come home alive. They start to lift over 100 mph. To high , light and handle poorly for that kind of running.""

    So I guess Dyno Don won his class in 1971 never going over 100, huh? :)
     
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    This site may be of interest to thoses interested in the AOD.
    www.transmissioncenter.net/AOD.htm
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    I don't think it has been done yet, in a MAV, but an AODE could be put in with an
    overdrive switch on the shift. These transmissions can be built nearly bullet proof (700 + hp) and with a lower 1st and 2nd gears instead of going way low on rear gear. Have the best of both worlds in gearing and no TV cable or linkage. Fixed internal pump pressure. But save your pennies for this one.
     
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    stupid question

    Sorta cluess here, so please don't slam me.

    Can't you just take an automatic overdrive trans from an 80's ford van or passenger car and just slip it on in a maverick?
    AOD=Automatic over drive ???

    what do you guys think?
     
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    No you can't just slip it in and yes it will fit with attention to details. How's that for confusion?
    The rear mounting point is farther back by about 4 inches or so.
    You need to hook up a cable from the carb to the transmission to control the internal pump pressure and properly adjust it or burn the bands and clutches near instantly. No vacuum modulator on these trans.
    So thats the yes and no of it.
    There are a number of people here tha are running the AOD. If you want to do it, they will tell you all about it.
     

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