Aod Swap

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  1. maverickoutlaw

    maverickoutlaw Member

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    I'm thinking about changing from a C4 to an AOD. Can anyone give any input to posible chalenges or problems with this swap?
    thanx ray
     
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    My observations...

    Ray,

    I put in an '85 302 (Mustang GT) and an AOD at the same time. Besides matching up flywheels, crankshafts and balancers, here's what I remember...

    1. Tranny cooler lines obviously won't be "just right." A little fun with fittings and a tubing bender is in order. While everything's out, it might be a good time to install an external tranny cooler if you want.

    2. I used to have column shift, but went to floor shift for the AOD. I was too impatient to figure out how to configure the column shift linkage for the AOD. There was also significantly less space in the tunnel for the column linkage anyhow.

    3. Some folks have about 1" or so of adjustment (either shorten or lengthen) needed for the driveline, but I needed no adjustments at all.

    4. Had to fabricate a mount. Took the C-4 one, flipped it around and added a little here and there to make it fit around the AOD.

    5. Not sure if the speedometer gear is the same for the two trannies. (Had a shop do that part.)

    Bests!
    Arriel.
     
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    SHOGrabber MCCI Member & MMB Member

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    You could e-mail Shawn Simpson the Michigan State Rep. Find his e-mail in the Shorthorns.
    He bought a Lentec AOD Trans and put it in his Mav.;)
     
  4. K. Merring

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    On a change of this kind, always try to get a full understanding of what has to be done.
    Here is a run down:
    The rear trans mount will have to be lenghtened.
    The correct flywheel to mate the AOD to the 302, for number of teeth and balance.
    Transmission control internal pump control linkage or cable setup to the carb.
    Floor shift hookup.
    Possible drive shaft length differences.
    If the 85 setup has all the right parts, your in good shape except for the rear mounting etc.
    The trans control linkage and proper adjustment is an absolute must or the trans will be damaged if driven to far, out of adjustment with the pressure too low.
     
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    I had an AOD in my car for a while, but wasn't very happy with performance, and it eventually puked its guts all over the freeway. I know some people have had good luck with them, but my personal opinion is that for the amount of work to swap in, a T-5 is a much. They are much lighter, much more compact, and at least in my experience, more durable. Plus, I just like rowing the gears the old fashioned way, but as I said, that's just my opinion.

    Good luck either way!!

    J
     
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    aod

    I second that the aod is not worth while
    I have one in mine now and have never been able to get the adjustment right

    well that is about it

    thanks William
     
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    The statements about the AOD are being made by the uninformed!
    Engines , transmissions, rears go bad at times. That is no reason to down the AOD. When in good condition, they performe fine. I just got done reprograming the AOD
     
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    The statements about the AOD are being made by the uninformed!
    Engines , transmissions, rears go bad at times. That is no reason to down the AOD. When in good condition, they performe fine. I just got done reprograming the AOD in 4000 LB LINCOLN for use behind a Kenne Bell blower. Others do it and also drag race with the AOD.
    Start with a good transmission and don't do stupid things and it will live fine.
    If anyone is offended, to bad.
     
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    once again, I agree with Mr. Merring. AOD's arent bad trannies, they just have a bad repuatation. Most of the failures with these things are due to overheating/overloading...but most of us with Mavericks/Comets wont have to worry about that. they are awesome for cruising around...you can run 4.11 gears easily and still cruise on the freeway @ 2200 rpm. Personally, I'd love to have a T5 in mine...but it would surely grenade with the output of the turbo 302, so the C4 will stay for now.
     

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