Ford 200 electrical problem doesn't crank

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  1. sam03rc

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    Working on a new 67 falcon 200auto trans has new solenoid and volt regulator everything electrical works but will not crank what do I need to check any ideas?
     
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    Does the engine turn at all? Have you tried to Hot Wire it by bypassing the ignition switch? BTW a 67 Falcon is not new ...it's 47 years old. :D
     
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    It doesn't click I get power to the solenoid but not the starter we hot wired the old solenoid at the old owner house cus it didn't it start my key but the starter works
     
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    Try swapping the two small wires on the solenoid and see what happens, it's possible they got plugged to the wrong stud.
     
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    Put a jumper from the frame of the solenoid to a good ground and try it. Solenoid won't work if it isn't grounded. I know. :yup:
     
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    What wires do I need to cross on the key? I can't get to it from under the dash so ill need to pull it unsure how falcons are held in by on the key cylinder
     
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    I jumped across the solenoid and it turns but nothing from key solenoid is grounded tried swapping the plugs on the front and still nothing
     
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    Here is a partial schematic for the 67 Falcon:

    Try checking the color codes on your wires, especially the solonoid "starter relay".

    67_falcon_partial.jpg

    Added part 2 partial, showing Voltage Regulator:

    67_falcon_partial_part_2.jpg
     
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    Yes the wiring looks to be correct from that wiring diagram could it be a safety switch or a bad key switch?
     
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    It's possible yes.

    That Red with Blue stripe wire, goes through the neutral safety switch, on the way back to the keyswitch.

    I would get a voltmeter, and have someone turn the key to start, while checking for 12 volts on the Red with Blue stripe, on the solonoid.

    Let us know what you find. Good luck.
     
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    Yes that's what I'm saying I just pulled the key switch and found the red blue wire when I turn the key on I should be reading 12volts right?
     
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    SSSSSorry had bad ground I do read 12volts on the red and blue when turning the key so this leaves to a bad safety switch right? How can I by pass this?
     
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    Yes I even took out the safety switch and hooked it up to bypass it and still nothing
     
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    IIt is a bad safety switch thanks guys we by passed it booking the right wires up and we are good thanks again
     

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