Must...make....more...power!!

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  1. CACollo

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    Hey again everyone.
    Got everything back together on my car and....still not enough power (will it ever be enough?)! Anyways, i was considering an electric fan or an electric fuel pump. I have no power steering so i'm slowly but surely removing everything my engine has to drive. Which would make more of a difference, the fuel pump or the fan (i have a fan clutch, which helps a little)?
    My other question is whether i can use an electric fan with the vertical flowing radiators. I have a three row, and no A/C. How many CFM would i need? Would i need a pusher and a puller, or just one big puller?
    Any other suggestions for freeing up more power?
     
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    Bigger cam with better heads and NOS will shurely bring up the POWER !
    :D Electric fuel pump is a good place to start , a good puller at 1200 CFM + would keep it cool . What has been done to your engine so far???:confused:

    Richard
     
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    RAM CHARGERS has a few low-priced fans.

    Call em up at 1-888-293-7267. They can probably help you determine what fan to use for your application.

    Also, I believe there are other fans from newer cars you can get from the salvage yards. I'd check with them also.

    I bought the dual speed-dual fan, pn 674001 (shown below) for my larger radiator (out of '90 Mustang).

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    I had to do some modifying to get it to fit flush, but it should be plenty for my app (drag race 347 c.i. which tends to run in the 200+ range, degrees - not MPH's :D ).

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    I went with the puller type so I could put two in-line tranny coolers on the front of the radiator.

    Good luck and keep us posted,

    Rick
     
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    I think fans take up more hp than a fuel pump .

    I have a 14" electric on my car when I go to the track . No problems . But it wont keep up on the street . I have a stock 2 core 302 radiator that was recored recently . Other people that I know with fairlanes and mustangs have no problem . So you can take this information for whatever you think it is worth .Some 302 (for whatever reason ) dont cool as well as others .
     
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    M.A.V. Yep,my real initials.

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    Yes Fans do use more horsepower than a fuel pump. Installing an electric fan set up will make a noticable difference when driving the car...Not a big difference,but noticable. An electric fuel pump wont make enough difference to "feel" ,And most of them make a pretty annoying noise while running .
     
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    What is the Application

    The application will dictate what changes are to be made , on a high HP engine it would mean more fuel . On a stock application I would tend to agree with the Electric fan !

    Richard:cool:
     
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    I already did the lumpy cam and aluminum heads, and it makes lotsa power...but there's always room for improvement! I was kinda thinking a fan too...i was just going to get the biggest fan i could find that pulled the most CFM and fit nicely (why buy anything less? i could end up having to buy another one and paying more in the end). I also worry because my fan says it is not rated for more than 4k rpm's and i regularly run it up to 6. Any other suggestions? I wish i had the money to do an electric water pump, but that'll be another day (then i'd only be driving the alternator, wouldn't that be nice?).
     
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    M.A.V. Yep,my real initials.

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    Here is the coolong set Up I`m running...It keeps it below 195 even when sitting in stop and go traffic during 98 degree days.
     
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    Clean looking set-up.
     
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    Moroso makes a neat little electric motor for you stock water pump. It comes with the belt and pulley, its a cheap and easy way to have a "electric" water pump and I think Summit offers them for about $60.
     
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    Hey Rick how was the fit on the 90 Mustang rad? I have one from my doner car and was wondering how it would fit, but haven't really tried it yet. I have the rad packed away. Thanks for the input.
     

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