Could I get this GM power steering pump to work on my 5.0?

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  1. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

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    Without too much of a hassle?

    Nice write-up in Car Craft this month.

    Very small, and uses very little HP to run, and doesn't heat up the fluid as bad.

    Will be using it with a R&C power rack and pinion setup.

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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    yes...:huh:
     
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    Dave B I like Mavericks!

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    Isn't the rack a Mustang one? GM pumps run at different pressures, than Fords.
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    change that to...maybe...:sorry:
     
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    They bragged on this one BECAUSE it runs at a much lower pressure, and keeps the fluid cooler.

    But since I did not know, that is why I asked.
     
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    Yes you can. I am using the same style pump (for a Dodge Viper) on mine with the R&C rack. I am using a Canton mounting bracket which positions the pump perfectly with the 5.0 serpentine setup. The pressure line into the pump connects to a flow valve that is screwed into the pump and can be changed to the lower flow needed for the Ford rack. You will also need a remote reservoir. I can provide you with all the part numbers if you decide to go this route.

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    Yep, they sell a pressure adapter to use a higher pressure GM style pump on a Ford low pressure R&P.
     
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    Is that puke tank the external reservoir?

    Post up part numbers, so we can all benefit from your experimentation.

    How many miles have you put on that setup? Has it held up over any significant time/miles?
     
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    I'll get parts posted when I get to the office tomorrow.

    The smaller diagonally mounted cylinder is the fluid reservoir, the larger barrel shaped can is a vacuum canister for brakes. One of the things you'll run in to is that the fluid is gravity drained to the pump from the reservoir so it has to be mounted above the pump. The reservoirs come in many shapes and styles (mine is a Flaming River unit) KRC even has one that mounts right on top of the pump.

    I have only run it a couple hundred miles so there is no durability record but as it is a setup used on many vehicles I would guess that once the system is designed and belt is aligned properly, that there would be no reason that I am aware of that it wouldn't operate as routinely as any ps system.

    This really is a simple system. The biggest challenge I had when devising it was how to mount the pump so that I had proper alignment with the crank, wp, and alternator pulleys and maintaining a position that worked in the serpentine system. The Canton mounting bracket was a bolt on solution that made it easy.
     
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    Looks promising...Part numbers would be a great help! :thumbs2:
     
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    Will a similiar setup work using a GM style pump leaving stock Ford PS components? "just want to replace the pump only".
     
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    Everett, I don't see why not and here are the things you will have to deal with off the top of my head.

    -Mounting position of the GM pump. I don't know if you could adapt the GM pump to the stock Ford PS bracket easily but maybe you have the fabricating skills to do so. It looks like the Canton bracket will take care of that according to Cantons description. It states that it can be either a V or serp belt system. If you had any alignment issues, the spacers can be adjusted as nec.
    -V belt pulley for the pump assuming you are using a V belt system
    -PS hoses will most likely have to be made or others used depending on where the reservoir is mounted. The plumbing on this set up is pressure hose from pump to rack, pressure return hose from rack to reservoir, and gravity drain from reservoir to pump.
    -Keep in mind as well that reservoir is a gravity drain so it will need to be mounted higher than the pump and you will still need the pressure flow adapted as mentioned previously.

    Let me know if any other questions.
     
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