Thanks man! I know you're trying to help and all but instead of the long detailed scientific explanations of radiators and functionality and articles with further explanations (which the article you attached was very helpful) the biggest help would be if you could recommend a radiator my setup. Keep it simple man! lol Thanks!
haha.. yeah, I know.. I talk and barrage people with information a lot in person too. I would have gladly shared my saved parts links with you. I had 3 known cores with measurments that would work with this car but I lost a fancy solid state drive in my main computer that wasn't recently backed up. trick is to look at the mfgrs websites to get full spec's and there was also an economically priced version on ebay. Been too busy with other things lately to even worry about rebuilding my parts source archives so the overview was all I could offer at this moment in time. Good luck with it.
oh.. and the 2 I found on ebay were both 2-core double pass crossflow designs with the narrower cores to fit these cars. Not much bigger core area than the original but way better design with higher advertised sq/in fin count. I will quick search again and see if I can find the ones I had saved.
couldn't find..."crossover" but did find cross-flow. Which Cools Better? Assuming you have a cross-flow and down-flow radiator made from the same materials and build methods, then they will provide the same level of cooling. http://www.cgj.com/2014/06/30/down-flow-radiator-vs-cross-flow-radiator-what-is-the-difference/
lol.. leave it to me to make things overly complex and confuse people even more.. and Frank to trivialize it all right back down to make them feel better about average performance cookie cutter replacement parts. Riddle me this. How do you get more core area into this engine bay using a downflow design vs a crossflow design? Make it much taller so it can stick under the cars front bumber?.. or just toss thicker higher core counts at it? And how many downflow radiators out there that allow double pass designs to be implemented? Here's a simple recommendation I could have made early on to save myself some time. And this is EXACTLY what I will be doing to mine as well. Cut back the rad supports opening to actually ALLOW the air to enter a bigger cross-flow double pass design that fits in this cars available space. That space" is about 19" tall x 24" wide. Very common core size, not that hard a modification compared to everything else you appeared to have done with this car so far. When a slushbox is involved, try to get one with a built in trans cooler reservoir. As for "what's required to cool that SPECIFIC engine?" Any of the thicker higher core count replacement parts, such as griffin's, will very EASILY dissipate the BTU output of that street motor. BTU's are all about fuel and air consumption at any given and SUSTAINED power level. How many BTU's do you think that engine will produce cruising around the streets while off-boost? As I mentioned already.. it will be no more than any other N/A motor at similar part throttle power levels. BTW, the little tiny STOCK core that originally comes in this car can cool that motor if you have a real nice tuneup and also never race it for longer sustained periods of high boost levels/power output(where could you ever really open that thing up for more than about 20-30 seconds @WOT anyways, right?). Just won't have very much margin left over at all for hotter than average days while carrying around extra weight/passengers, is all. I didn't have much time to look around for a unit that will swap right into this cars available space. Pretty easy to measure the space and maximize its availability with a shelf part or have one custom made to fit however you want it to. Your biggest limitation is the thickness of the reservoirs as they'll be stuffed down between the rad support and the front strut rod reinforcements. Just depends on how much you want to spend and how fanatical you care to get about cooling system efficiency levels. Good luck with it all. PS. why don't you just do a Taurus fan swap with a Volvo relay? Pretty much par for the course type stuff around here.
I know I had some saved links for fan shrouds too. One had to do with Jeep liberty OEM shroud and there are guys around here with that mod too. Sorry, can't exactly remember who though. Decent e-fan and proper shroud design makes a huge difference to airflow volume passing through the existing cores available space. Allows a smaller lighter cooling package to match the cooling capability of a bigger less efficient one.
Thanks but I'm looking/wanting something new. Don't want an old radiator and shroud surrounded by new parts and it stick out like a sore thumb!
I have a champion 3 row radiator and I have my fan strap straight to the radiator I would like to put a shroud on it but it seems like I only have about an inch and a half of clearance before it touches the water pump on my 5.0 motor. How much clearance do you have between your water pump and your fan?
