HHO Generator - Save Gas

I just had my desk top restored and the pc guy (Jose) is making these things. He showed me a heater he made and we talked for a couple of hours about "his" automotive prototype. I just read this whole exhaustive thread. I did/do find it intresting, but I have a GT that needs to burn some gasoline before I can jump into another experiment lol.
He got all excited explaining this stuff to me. He went to light this pilot looking thing, inside this mangled mess of hosses and jars and wires, batteries, car charger , I nearly ran out the door on him .
Jose is still working on his stuff, always improving it. Here's his link that he says is old and a new one is soon to come.
http://hydrogeeks.net/en/index.htm

 

Hey Blu you should tell him they dont use hydrogen gas to power the space shuttle, they use liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, one acts as a fuel the other acts as a catalyst.
(I use to work for Alliant Tech systems...er the company that bought out Morton Thiokol and I worked on those rocket boosters shown on his website http://www.atk.com/Customer_Solutions_SpaceSystems/cs_ss_hsf_ssrsrm.asp

 

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Apparently some people were hoping this post was dead and gone

You know what this means dont you now Brad West is going to come back and tell us he gets 97 mpg out of his 69 oldsmobile that has a 455 rocket with just a little pixie dust and happy thoughts....

 

Thanks for pointing that out. Jose seems really smart. I was hoping someone would comment on his site like you did. I didn't want to get dragged in to his plee for a % partner. He offered, in his own way, to make me a partner if I would contribute to his work financialy. I asked how much my bill was and when he told me,I made up my mind.

You didn't have to come back in here you know :16suspect

 

Yeah one of the things I do i HVOF of tungsten carbide coatings

For those of you that dont know what HVOF stands for look for the HVOF section on this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HVOF#High_velocity_oxygen_fuel_spraying_.28HVOF.29

We use liquid hydrogen as a fuel, liquid oxygen as a catalyst and liquid nitrogen as a stabilizer/carrier gas. We are spraying ceramic materials usually tungsten carbide (yes it is a ceramic) or tribaloy.
The pictures on the page you see of the spray in action is while the powder is fed, usually when the hydrogen and the oxygen are burnt it is a clear flame.

If you are curious what equipment we use look here
http://www.hardfacealloys.com/
then look under equipment the picture they have is our unit, we were one of their first customers (the first one they had in aerospace) so they stuck a picture of our system up.

(oh by the way we coat flight control pistons with tungsten carbide wear resistance is increased about 300% over chrome with a weight savings of about 45-50%, we are retrofitting everything to use it and we are putting it on new aircraft like the F35...yes it is already in production)

 

Unique type of work. You got any Mav parts coated? lol Don't try doing the gas tank

 

Yeah that is just part of my job it is interesting work technically, I am a industrial systems engineer... basically it is a mix between an over qualified tool and die maker and a low level manufacturing engineer.
I do everything from heat treat and welding to nitel etch and tool and die making.

As for having some parts coated I have thought about making some remote reservoir shocks for my sleds and coating the pistons with tungsten carbide but honestly it is not hard getting time for the coating it it is hard getting time to grind the tungsten to finish. That is kind of a time consuming process.

 

Here we go again.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong WRONG!

Voltage regulator. Click this!

nnnnnnnNNNNNNOOOOOOO! Not true. If it was, your battery would be swollen and leaking fluid, just like the heads of people who sell, and buy, HHO garbage on the Internet.

Suppose you did circumvent the voltage regulator and actually were producing more power from your alternator than the car is using, the kinetic energy it takes to turn that alternator and generate that power cancels out any additional energy gains you'd get from the so-called fuel you're generating.

The alternator does not work for free, people. When the regulator turns it off and there's no energy demand, it's basically freewheeling. When it is generating power, it is generating mechanical resistance too.

It was closed!

 

I dont want to reply on any of the HHO stuff on this thread but I did have to say thanks for the pic Im going to use that one again

 

CORRECT ANSWER!

Welcome.

 

The more load on the alternator, the more resistance on the engine. Don't remember much from my electronic courses, but I do remember this simple little hand crank generator connected to a light bult. Turn the light bulb on and crank and you had resistance... Turn off the bulb and crank, and you had no resistance.

Funny the stupid little things you remember from school

 

Many things wrong, but oh well

Nice loud post, but... many things are "wrong wrong WRONG" (in your words) with what you were saying. You don't seem to understand what the voltage regulator does, even though you felt you had to point me to read about it myself.

I've deleted the rest of my post, because I'm not enjoying this little exchange.

Now, I may be a newbie to the maverick.to forums (as you pointed out oh so subtly with a 594px wide image), but I've been participating in online forums (in a civilized fashion) since before the Web existed, and the response you've just provided was one of the least civilized I've seen. Is it really worth getting that upset about?

Classic cars are a hobby – we're not dealing with the fate of the free world.

Go crack a beer.

 

Could you explain it to us?

 

Shrug it off... he has better days. It's the topic I think that erks him BUT