Mustang Disc Spindles

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  1. Acornridgeman

    Acornridgeman MCCI Wisconsin State Rep Moderator Supporting Member

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    Very interesting information Degins :clap: , thanks for the input!

    I have read that the 74 Maverick discs are different from the 75, 76, 77. Had to do with Ford using what was available in 74 (Mustang II parts modified to fit the Maverick) and in 75, with the introduction of the Granada line, the Maverick now had the Granada set up. Can you shed some light on this 74 brake being different question?

    Eric J
     
  2. degins

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    Please PM or use info@discbrakeswap.com . I don't want to use the forum to do business. I'd be glad to help you.
     
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    I think that the truth is the other way around. The M/G front disc brake system was developed for 74 Maverick and used on Granada. Afterall, Granada is based on Maverick. Technically, I can't find a difference between 74 or other year systems. The 74 front disc brake system has complete interchange with later year M/G ones.
     
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    Huh .. that goes against everything I've read that says the 74 is a smaller brake based on the Mustang II and Pinto, and the 75 and up is the bigger Maverick/Granada set up.

    I learned my 'something new today' already, and I'm only on my second cup of coffee ! :tiphat:
     
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    The only thing that I was implying is that IMO you were making too big a deal about the bearing size difference in the context of swapping them onto a much lighter car like the Maverick.
    I felt like it might have to do with the relative common availability of the 68-69 stuff in relation to the Granada based parts that you are here soliciting.
    Seemed like a negative comment coming from a biased source.
    I was just injecting some common sense to the idea that the parts in question were undesirable for a swap onto a lightweight car.:tsk:
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    With all due respect, I'm not sure that you know what you are talking about. Are you saying that it is inappropriate to swap out your drums on Maverick for the original equipment disc system? I can see using the originial equipment 70-73 type for pre 74 Maverick. Not many pre 74 Mavericks were equipped with disc brakes.

    My motives not withstanding, the fact is that salvage spindles and replacement parts for Granada type are more common and much less expensive than 68-69. There were several million Maverick and Granadas made. In addition, millions more Mustang II and Pintos shared calipers and small parts. The cars originally equipped with 68-69 type were not made in large numbers. Today, calipers, hoses, slotted rotors, and small parts are much more expensive for 68-69 type. I based my decision to reproduce the Granada knuckle, in part, on the greater availability of caliper cores and the economy of the supporting parts. You can be sure , if the 68-69 or the 70-73 type was better or more economical, I would have reproduced them instead of the Granadas. My bias is well founded.

    enough said!
     
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    On that note, I have a set of spindles, calipers, discs, springs, bearings, etc, for a 73 Grabber. Will they fit a 68 Fairlane?
     
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    Did 73s come with discs?
    If they are Mav or Granada discs, then, yes they will fit a 68 Torino.
    I will go with Deigns on this one...
    For that heavier car, the Mav swap is probably better than stock due to it's increased strength.
    Dave
     
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    73 they were optional, I think standard on a V8. I pulled a set from a 73 Grabber years ago before I got my 2 door Comet.
     
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    Factory disc brakes didn't become available on any Maverick/Comet until 1974. Disc brakes were standard equipment on all 1976 and 1977 Mavericks/Comets.
     
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    Pre 74 Comets had disc brakes, not standard. Look in any parts catalog under calipers or rotors if you don't believe me. I have also seen pre-74 Mavericks with factory installed disc brakes. All of these are 71-73 Mustang type spindles that use the sliding type caliper and a unique (6026), very expensive rotor. You are correct about 76-77 Mavericks having standard disc brakes. This is true of Granada as well.

    I'm not sure what any of this matters, since I would use later model Maverick (74-77) or Granada (75-80) type on all Maverick/Comet. This swap is a lot less expensive than 68-69 or 70-71 Mustang/cousins swaps.
     
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    Not to "belabor" the point....but we have had this discussion on this board many, many times...and NO Maverick or Comet came from the factory with disc brakes prior to the 1974 model year.

    Just trying to keep the information on here factual about factory disc brakes on a Maverick/Comet.


    Your second point is right on (y)

    I do appreciate your insight on a cost effective and SAFE disc brake swap.
     
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    I remember reading somewhere (here?) that the only difference between 74 and later Mav's disc brakes was the physical size of the calipers, with 74s using a Mustang II part and 75-77s using the larger G/M piece. Sure would be nice to get all of this straightened out once and for all and make a sticky in the FAQ section.
     
  14. degins

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    Craig,
    We are way past belaboring this issue, but that is what the forum is for! Look in all the online parts catalogs (Parts America, orielys auto, autozone, rockauto) and you will see front brake calipers, rotors, small parts for pre-74 Comets. I don't think they were that common since Maverick/Comet was a bottom line economy car. For what it's worth, my observation on accepted wisdom of the forums, is that many threads about disc brake swaps are based on hearsey. I try to base my opinion on facts that I can show proof, or have had first hand experience. I have had a lot of experience with Falcon chassis based front disc brake systems.


    bmcdaniel,
    This question was posed and answered earlier in this thread. Not to make a big deal of it, since your question is important, but this is a good example of the hearsey I refered to above.

    74 Mav disc brakes are identical in all aspects to later Mav and Granada type except that the manual master cylinder was a little different. Mustang II/pinto used the same caliper as later 74+ MAV/Granada. Except for these calipers, Mustang II front disc brakes are totally incompatable with the Falcon chassis family of cars of which Maverick/Comet/Mustang... belong.
     
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    I have seen many false listings in parts house catalogs.
    I have seen listings for 78 Maverick parts!
    Dave
     

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